And we got to a Saturday meeting then on the ninth. And you couldnt be accused of disseminating them to the larger public. Gary, And lets just, for people who dont know, tell them who Rick Donald is and the position he held and his relation to James McDonald. And there were meetings on Wednesday, where James McDonald was informed of the decision of the elder board. And had those letters not reach the board, its hard to say where James McDonald would be today. We turned out to have six witnesses who wrote 28 pages with innumerable charges. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? And scripture is really clear that its got to be, you know, two or three witnesses. And then saying, I need a private jet to fly me home. Thats even though MacDonalds former megachurch, Harvest Bible Chapel, disqualified MacDonald from public ministry in 2019 for a pattern of sinful behavior.. I followed up with this text but Julie did not respond immediately to my request for a comment. Not all he said was false because then it would have been obvious to any discerning Christian. But according. But he said when he and Scott Phelps and Barry Slebaugh went into a meeting with James in the summer of 2012, asking for, whats your salary James? And you have James McDonald coming in, from the United States, getting off the plane for a little bit, doing a few meetings, which I guess he complained about doing. Am I characterizing that correctly? We had a group of Pastors who interviewed him and he gave us free tickets to his Straight Up conference. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Yeah. Whats wrong with Visconti supporting Kari Lake or speaking out against abortion or transgenderism? I stepped into a conference room. Yes, yes. And they were praying in earnest this entire time. And then you know, you would categorize these things. And James, recently, in this video that he posted, said that there was an elder, in these meetings, he says, its very, very disparagingly who, who was holding his Bible and kept reading scripture. . He is not a pastor. And when he sees he cant save it, it sounds like then he was trying to lobby for being able to resign, and a lot of emotional manipulation being used that weekend from from what youve told me. They said no, for various reasons. The 8 Best Julie Roys Podcasts. Thats what meeting and when youre in a conference called and youre making a decision like that, every elder everybody on the meeting on the call had to make right had the voice be asked any question you have. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, he's a victim of defamation by an "envious child"and needs your money "to rebuild." "Tragically . And so when they started arguing the process, I was just like, Oh, my gosh, thats what were just gonna talk about the process. It wasnt an easy thing to do. She keeps demanding I tithe to her and she will ask god to bless me. Whoever said the dumbest thing had to take off an, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation. Although as soon as, pretty much after Mancow aired it. He further claims Harvests elders crafted false accusations against him as a pure act of vindictiveness to cover the churchs looting of his former broadcast ministry, Walk in the Word. I mean just absolutely devastating stories and, and feeling the pain. And I got it. Yeah, I can share some of it. It was one of the big red flags to me, or I guess it was a yellow flag could have been a red flag, I wouldnt have done it. But to tell people they have to stay in a situation of violence, trauma and harm, or return to it, this is not a core tenet of Christianity. He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. In October, Harvest along with lead pastor James MacDonald filed a defamation lawsuit against the author of the World article, Julie Roys, for "asserting false allegations" during her eight . However as I grew in age and hopefully in wisdom, I consulted other versions of the Bible. And I remember talking to another elder and I looked at him, he was almost in tears, saying, I cant believe were not going to do what Gods word says. How come church leaders and male congregants are always beating up the women with this particular Scripture but no one ever (to my knowledge) addresses the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church? And I thought, Oh, my gosh! Right, so now you have this meeting that ends you know, Tuesday night meeting that ends in the wee hours of the Wednesday, February 6. ChurchLeaders has reported extensively on MacDonald and Harvest, which began experiencing unrest back in 2013. Yes, and I would add that baked into the command for husbands to love their wives is the definition of love in 1 Corinthians 13. And I read all these verses, and we were talking about it. But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. As youll hear in this podcast, there was a strong push to suppress those letters by those loyal to James McDonald. Ed Stetzer was given a car by James MacDonald, along with a bunch of cash and other things that Roys documents in her reporting. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Yes, I agree. Hes a deceiver. Very interesting discussion. And to hear that, its still got to be pretty tough to stand up to that, or at that point where you like, now I know the truth, Im moving forward. I hope you have a great day and God bless. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! I mean, even though at this point, your eyes have been opened. And I just felt this incredible weight. And I checked my voicemail. He had joined, I think a year into, into Harvests history. Id read through everything and all the letters. . In that same meeting that same Thursday night, he argued, the elders shouldnt have the letters. There were elders and influential families that spoke against Moses in the desert, God destroyed them and their families. You disseminated down to the elders, and then that became really the sticking point for James, wasnt it? Ostensibly, one of the assets MacDonald obtained in the arbitration settlement is the list of email addresses of former Walk in the Word supporters. You can review it. He was in Walk in the Word studios apparently, and said some really vile things, including, you know, joking about putting child porn on a computer, joking about me having an affair with a Christianity Today editor, which has no basis in fact whatsoeve. Its funny how things turn out, and this situation isnt wrapped up, yet. Thanks! The multi-campus Harvest Bible Chapel in greater Chicago along with founder James MacDonald, has slapped several former workers and independent journalist Julie Roys with a defamation lawsuit alleging the publication of false information about the church, its finances and governance that resulted in the loss of 2,000 members. No, its not how it went down, Julie. Why did you think it was important to own not just who James McDonald was, and not just point the finger at him. This is going amongst the elders now. And a few days later James MacDonald's sons, Luke and . And then if you could, please share the podcast on social media so more people can hear about this great content. But I had all I had all the letters by that point. Shame on you for reading scripture! So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. The news came less than a week after another update from Julie Roys, . Thankfully, I had headphones on. So thats why I think its so important to get the truth out there and to just keep speaking the truth. And there was a voicemail from one of the pastors at Harvest, in a really sort of pushing for me to sign that put my name to that. And I sat and prayed. The man does not make the ministry., God [emailprotected]. So quick to forgive and people were giving me hugs the next night. I was at work. I was literally sitting in a hotel lobby waiting for a pickup at one oclock in the morning to catch an overnight flight back from India. Okay. to anyone whos been a part of, of what went on. James MacDonald Suspends New Home Church Network Julie Roys September 29, 2020 Seven months after launching a Home Church Network (HcN) for those who "struggle to get to church or to stay in church," former celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, is suspending the program. Julie. He teaches that wives should endure abuse like a missionary endures persecution. Gary Weigel, if you total all the expenses including vet bills, it might be more than a tithe. I was thrown out of the church we gave our lives to by a group of rogue leaders, MacDonald writes. Can you say what was in that letter? (Proverbs 27:12). I talked to other people who told me of demands that he made for private jets on numerous occasions. I mean, I got exonerated rather quickly. Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Part II, Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Escaping & Healing from Abusive Churches, Part 2. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Im Julie Roys. . While we were doing that, I was in my office at home. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? But I think it was And anyway, hes fired. #JRgossipslut #JRcancerinChristsbody. So this is going to be a fascinating podcast. And Stetzer is a huge, huge part of the crooked machine. Julie Roys is a veteran investigative reporter and founder of The Roys Report. Can you share what was in it? And this was a spiritual battle. I wasnt looking forward to that. I still dont understand all sides of the transgender issue, but can say 2 things: 1. And I got the text. No one takes joy in doing this. In an email to The Roys Report (TRR), Vernick noted that in the Old Testament, Abigail, the wife of the boorish and immature, Nabal, was a strong woman, married to a weak characterand she wasnt toxic. 28 Feb 2023 13:40:27 The devil is at work. Like Tullian Tchvidjian, he would be a great salesman. The text included the hashtags #gossipslut #gossipmonger #filthygutterwebsite #cancerinChristsbody., MacDonald also tweeted the invitation, referring to me as Julie Jezebel Roys.. I wish I didnt. And I stopped my car. Jacob Ross, all the credit card that James used for personal expenses. So Rick was in the meeting, as were others, and they were defending saying the elders should not have the letters. Theres no joy in doing this. ( was spent) That seems pretty straightforward. And why do you do it in front of everybody? . But its a story that needs to be toldand rememberedgiven that MacDonald is trying to relaunch his ministry in Chicago. 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