Why shouldn't our handguns be offered the same way? Every one of your responses reinforces my opinion. You mentioned your Gen 4 had issues this year resulting in carrying your Gen 3. With the mag removed, you only have a two-finger grip on it and your hand becomes the magwell in the event of a reload. As you've gathered so far, the differences between Glock Gen 4 vs Glock Gen 3 are moderate. Nothing is changed internally or really all that substantially; the gun is pretty much the same except for some surface changes. However, the differences might be enough to sway you one way or another. I think everyone should be putting 3 mags with a new gun, its just a courteous thing to do. If you are going to strip the gun all the way to the frame its going to be a little different than the Gen 3. I had more problems with it when I took it out a couple months ago, now it seems to be working again but I dont trust it as much. I love my G30, its basically all the goodness of a G21 but shrunk down to G19 size. Another PoS Tupperware for glocktards to drool over. The one really odd thing I found was the thinner frame. Much better accuracy and a little more punch. You can take a dermal tool or a sanding block to the frame, its only plastic. A medium and large one are now in each box. Excellent article. I have to agree with you. Glock started including 3 magazines instead of the 2 that came with the previous generations. get the most out of your GLOCK pistol. Two are included in the box with a G36. If I were to bite the bullet , and buy a Glock for carry purposes; I would probably cold carry it. And, honestly, many shooters would never even think about changing them. Thanks again. There is absolutely no reliability difference between Glock 19 Gen 3 and Gen 4 handguns. First of all, the Gen 3 broke around 20,000 rounds or so and more dry fire then I can count (probably at least 10:1 dry to live). If the grip is too small you must have the biggest hands in the world. The first thing I thought getting it out of the box was, WHAT is this dumb mag basepad for ? My Glock 23 is a Gen3 and I had issues with the slide not going all the way forward. I kept regriping and shifting my grip. I just bought my 1st Glock 26 Gen 3. I bought my Gen 4 before Glock offered the beaver tail. Nope. The Gen 3 is clunky and heavy, recoiling with more force than modern Glock shooters are accustomed to. And a bonus its easier to keep my thumb off the side stop, so the slide always locks back after the last round. SIG SAUER 185gr V-Crown JHP925fps, 2.25 I dont have trouble hanging onto it, probably because it fits & feels great in my hands, with +1 exension. The smaller trigger housing fits in the smaller Glock 19 4th Generation frame. This isn't a jab at anyone in particular. Have fun with it. Both are surprisingly shootable and accurate. The Glock Gen-5 version is better for those who are more comfortable with a simple, bare-to-the-bone trigger. There is also the reversible magazine catch for lefties, which is a plus. The age of wood and steel is far from over, but the age of plastic has certainly been in full swing for some time now and lots of gun owners have grown to like (or at least appreciate) polymer pistols. in length. This is a welcome upgrade to the Glock 19 Generation 3 for those southpaws out there. Despite a single stack magazines, the flat, wide grip and narrow profile make the gun feel akin to a 24 in the hand and it torques under recoil as a result. Have a G36. Its just a different way to put the gun together. I find thicker glocks print more than the slimline glocks do. Caliber: .45 ACP My favorite is the Glock 19. Its the mid sized gun and a great place to start. Most of us get it. I initially drank the koolaide and was a fan boy but not anymore. But what I really want is a 48 style in 45acp. The longer pins will work but stick out a little to far. As you've gathered so far, the differences between Glock Gen 4 vs Glock Gen 3 are moderate. For accessories right now there is more stuff for the Gen 3. I do get slide bite from any Glock without a beaver tail (I use a Grip Force adaptor on mine). All Rights Reserved. And no I did not use the laser to qualify. This without the cost of being uncomfortable during long sessions at the range. Welcome to Glock Knuckle. Glock does not sell them to the consumer market; they are only sold to police departments and federal agencies. The trigger bar deactivates the firing pin safety once the trigger is pulled. Thats Awesome Earl! This was the same for GLOCK in the early years. Both barrels measure 4.48 in. If you get a Gen 3, you can generally find them for cheaper (make sure its more then the price of the extra magazine). The G36 I used for this review came equipped from the factory with Trijicon night sights. However, the evolution from a Gen 1 Glock 17 to a Glock 17 Gen 4 didn't come from any marketing whimsy. This larger, dual-recoil spring guide rod was employed to accommodate the heavier recoil of the larger rounds available now. (1911 grips, am I right?) The G26 offered a shorter handle with a two finger grip. In fact, if you have ever handled any of the Glock 19 Generations, you will quickly feel at home with either Gen 3 or 4 you pick up. At the moment, Glock is still selling the Glock Gen 3 pistols as well as Gen 4 and Gen 5. First of all I like guns not brands (same for cars). SIG SAUER 230gr V-Crown JHP-850fps, 2.75 Im a Glock guy but rather than the 36 I ended up going with the 30S -terrific pistol and for slimmer times the Shield 2.0. Yours is not. Pistol Fighting Dynamics Course San Antonio, Pistol Fighting Dynamics Course North Texas. Thats why I bought the Gen 4 as my second Glock. I have been shooting regularly for just a few years. Im a Marine, I can break anything. BTW, everyone in this thread seem to forget about Kahr CM45. And it is a beauty to shoot. I shoot a whole lot, obviously. I havent found a case or anyone that can make a Glock fire without pulling the trigger. So, this is one of these things that just because you can do it, why would you do it? Glock also changed the extractor so that it would stick out when the gun was loaded, thereby acting as a loaded chamber indicator. Buffalo Bore 255gr +P Outdoorsman875fps, 3.5 Fairly accurate, has never jammed on me and is easy to conceal. The one upgrade in the Glock 19 Gen 3 vs Gen 4 whirlwind is the lowly, but vital, magazine. There a lot of spring kits and trigger kits on the market. I have no idea how you can carry the pistol to get slide bite. The gun was a departure from the high-capacities of their prior models and featured a new type of magazine. And since Glock stopped at Gen3, the future is limited, too, but Ill still have a place for it in the safe. If you spend a lot of time at the range or are involved in a competition, you can easily see the value of this upgrade. Whereas the Glock 19 Gen 3 mags are not. Someone else mentioned the Colt Officers ACP. You can hold it, sight it and be safe from the Glock pinch. Overall * * * I like it, its my bug to my full size real steel double stack 1911 that I also have no trouble concealing except when its damm hot and I switch to a .380 Acp for short wearing weather. I get Glock Knuckle from both of them. so get this amazing Red Puffer Vest which is a favorite of all girls and it is the most-rated and most selling outfit in our store, shop now because the stock is limited. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. I bought a G36 early on, thinking it would be a lighter replacement for my Colt Officers .45. I would gladly let him know about this. They digest most ammo well, shoot easily enough and more than accurately enough for government work, and so on. There I got to teach and train with the US Army and others. What you want to do with the gun and what size your hands are are very important to the process. Too many better options in 45 and 9. Agree. Josh Wayner is a Michigan native, active competitor, Grand Valley State University alumni, troublemaker, and fiction author. Is this a come-on or a good service by Glock. Receive exclusive deals, new product announcements and need to know information. The slide serrations were changed to fish scales and the texturing was changed, with stipling rather than a rough texture on the sides and checkering on the front and back of the grip. Hi, 1st Id like to thank each of you servicemen active or retired for defending our country! The G36 is the wrong answer. Glock also created modular backstraps for the Gen 4 pistols, which were cleverly named the "Glock Modular Backstraps.". Sounds like the dudes that bitch so much about it need to hit the weight room to improve their pathetic forearms. Perhaps you occasionally operate while wearing tactical gloves. I still carry my Gen 3, but the 4 has become a safe queen. remain ignorant of the .45GAP and .40SW and you remain having problems! EDIT. For example, Id love to fit it with a Tango Down slide stop, but no hope there. Luckily, the Gen 3 Glock is still in production and is still a fan favorite. Find the best clothing and apparel for all seasons. The answer, like most gun questions, is that it depends. boilergonzo Well, better is very, very relative. Right now they are still on Glocks web site. The XD-S is a much better .45 single-stack, and the G30 is a much, much better Glock subcompact .45 pistol. The Gen 4, on the other hand, has several sizes of backstrap that can be easily swapped in for a better fit. The guy who wrote this article really did a dis-service to a fine handgun. I have Gen 2 and Gen 3 Models but the Gen 4 is nice. In order to find out when your particular gun was made, you had to do a search on its serial number. It is simply one more layer of the Glock 19 Gen 3 vs Gen 4 debate. The first and most noticeable issue is the grip which, while narrow(er), is exceedingly thick from front to back. I actually changed the one in my carry gun out for an EFK Dragon spring. Even a compact 1911 with equal capacity has flush-fitting magazines. On the surface, the striker fired Glock design has remained visually the same. And yeah, Ive had my pinky bitten on quick mag changes but not shooting. And stop comparing it to a damned 9mm, it is not! Have you noticed reduced recoil, faster follow up shots, etc with your 19? Reply Quote. Sure my Smith M&P 45 is more comfortable to shoot as it is a very nice gun but it is much bigger [more of a hassle] than the Glock 36 to carry. If this is on the up-and-up, any advice prior to buying? I have a Glock 36 that was worked for grip size and texture. Enjoy it. I carry IWB or OWB with the holster between the belt and trouser band. Or whine about their pinky bleeding. Its a little bit of pain but worth the $100 if they have the one you want. Comparing them, the gen 3 SF frame seems a bit fatter left-to-right, almost as if the handle is more oval. The first difference between Glock 19 Gen 3 and Gen 4 that many sees are the grips. I carry it daily. Required fields are marked *. I really dont care for the way the grip feels to me on the 19 & 23. Just Bidded on one, might win might not I hope I win really looking forward to getting a G36. The GMBS, as it were, is swappable backstrap panels to customize the fit of the pistol to the shooter. I agree with you Jeff i have three mags. Glock 19 Magazine. It shot to point of aim all the way out to 25 yards, where it again performed well. The bangs just stop a lot sooner. Myself being a first time buyer, which gen 3 would be good to defend your family as well as protect yourself? WhattheFuss? Got rid of the 36 in some long forgotten gun deal. I find it to be very comfortable in my hand, more so than a 1911 or M&P Shield. The gun doesnt feel very secure during this process and forgetting where your pinky is can result in a painful pinch. There is no way a larger recoil spring guide rod is going to fit into the smaller Glock 19 Gen 3 slide. However, doing this will significantly alter the trigger pull weight for the weapon. In fact, with the problems the guns had in the past, Id even say the new spring is one of the weak points in the gun. Gaston Glock, who had no prior experience in gun manufacturing, was indeed an innovator. Makes for an effective CCW that you can trust. Aesthetics * * * It is possible to install the connector for a Glock 19 Gen 4 into a Gen 3. Hornady Custom 200gr XTP +P925fps, 3.25. He resides in the great Inland Northwest, with his wife and child. If you see some that look a little different its because the guns being made in America and the ones being made in Austria have a finish that looks a little different. On paper the pistol sounds more compact than it is in practice. If you want a Glock, just buy one. The frames are easy to get on gun broker. Oh, by the way, do make sure the weapon is cleared before doing this, you do not want to become a statistic. After that the Glock 36 is just fine. connector. As are you. I agree with your evaluation but I like my gun. It also feels like they changed the trigger somewhere in there. Buy the best GLOCK gifts and collectibles for your office, outdoors, and range. Now I want to bring that experience and my joy of teaching to others. The new mag release button is larger than the ones found on the previous Glock 19 Gen 3. I remember shooting a 36 and being amazed at how much worse it felt than a G19. Nice ammo count! liked it. That and ruger pistols and revolvers are what I have in the stable. The last bit was popular, as the RTF2 stipling was made standard across the whole Gen 4 Glock line. His varied interests and hobbies include camping, fishing, hunting, and spending time at the gun range as often as possible. You really should do some life evaluationsif THIS is what your life has amounted to today, perhaps it is time to change course and begin practicing the things that will produce a better tomorrow. The Gen 4 has a new texture on its grip which many find just right for either bare-hands or gloves. Just like the gun better. I love the size of the 23! This was the first in a line of GLOCK pistols that attempted innovation within the constraints of the original GLOCK design. It was thinner than the double stack G21, but as flat as a GLOCK 19, allowing .45 power in a (relatively) small package. Whether they matter enough to spend a little more for the Gen 4is up to you. I learned that from Hickok45 way back and it made me a FAR better shooter and I could care less about a longer grip nowadays. I am really enjoying my Glock 48 (currently sporting a 43 threaded slide). or thinking about buying one? I found that a snubbie is a real challenge for meeven at just 7 yards. The frame that gives a little really reinforces the plastic gun thing. Im thinking the larger model glocks would help out. The 36 is reliable and accurate enough for self defense. The G36 was my first gun. That's why they make chocolate and vanilla, everybody's different. Are you trying to act like its a qualifier in order to have an opinion? That's a plus if the standard pistol doesn't have the best fit out of the gate. Honestly. I am casual shooter with small hands. Share Compare Wishlist Warning WARNING ADVERTENCIA Technical Data Caliber .45 Auto In early 2018, Umarex received the official Glock licensing to produce replica Glocks in 4.5mm bb and 6mm airsoft. They made the magazine release button a little bigger and made it swappable for left-handed users. I walked in the place with two knives and a .45. Reducing the trigger pull and installing different connectors and springs etc. The Glock Generation 3 guns are very basic, in that they give you everything you need and nothing you don't. So I go to where they are and find that the joint has security at the door. Glad to see a review of the G36. When you see the larger hole obviously there beneath the barrel, this isn't much of a leap. Downsides? The Gen 3 pistols have been in production for 20 years. 1. It depends on what you want. A lightweight handgun at 1.52 lbs, it tops out at 2.04 lbs with a fully-loaded magazine of 10mm ammunition. The Glock phenomenon came to life in the early eighties. It is not perfect but is a good reliable gun. Glock Gen 4 Generation 4 pistols have few changes from the Generation 3 model guns, but have the addition of the Glock Modular Backstrap system. Ergonomics * Barrel Length: 3.75 The gun fired everything I put in it. 9mm Pistol, Gun Review: Taylors & Company TC9 1873 SA Single Action Revolver, Classic Gun Review: Marlin Model 39 .22 Lever Action Rifle. They are proven, without doubt, and truth be told don't really show their age from a certain perspective. Not fun. Reading opinions and reviews online can be more frustrating than actually finding a decent gun, and this article is no different. Just hold it as high as you can on the grip. Now, don't interpret this as if you will be grabbing onto sandpaper. I plan to get another extension making my carry total of 21 rounds with two mag changes. Im with you, for some reason I just keep going back to the Gen 3. The pinky getting pinched is the easiest issue, that will be solved with the bigger gun. Check out my podcast on the subject Handgun Triggers. I use to carry a Dan Wesson .357 Magnum in service for a PD. That has happened more than once. You have entered an incorrect email address! Thanks Daric! Heck no. The Glock 19 Gen 4 upgrades are subtle, yet leap out at the same time. The recoil spring is quite stiff by comparison to similar guns, which makes it difficult to operate with cold or slippery hands. The trigger housing found in the Glock 19 Gen 4 was designed just a bit smaller than in the Glock 19 Generation 3. I figured out the frame was thinner when I was working on Massad Ayoobs crush grip. The Glock 17 is an Austrian made pistol used by law enforcement and military all over the world. I bought a Smith and Wesson M&P Shield 9mm a couple of months ago. As a result, I can bring the gun onto target faster than those with more rounded (I.E., double stack) grips. It never failed to go bang, but lost the slide stop so the top of the Glock went further forward than it should. The first couple emptied mags reminded me why I liked this gun so much years ago, and it really comes down to one unique feature, the grip shape. The trigger bar on the Glock 19 Gen 4 features a small bump. Ill be buying more of them. Capacity: 6+1 Rounds The GLOCK 36 presents grip ergonomics of the next dimension. Cheers! That said, those surface changes may make a difference to you. If you are going to depend on your Glock Gen 3 or Gen 4 for your life, use a professional for tricky upgrades. Good luck explaining why you shot a little kid across the street. Its mechanically sound as I had not a single issue with it as far as reliability is concerned, but it just wasnt an enjoyable gun to shoot. The general idea behind it is still sound, but is at this point the G36 is significantly outclassed by other .45 ACP pistols in the same genre. Everything else is just not worth talking about. And Ive shot a LOT of them. So I set up my Gen 4 for use by changing the sights, recoil spring, and adding the Grip Force adaptor. Glock is still producing its Gen 3 series Glocks which would seem odd to most as it has released two generations since Generation 3. It was an entirely reasonable comment. At the same time, the texture is not going to snag on gloves. Same Day Shipping when order is placed before 1PM EST, SAME DAY SHIPPING WHEN ORDER IS PLACED BEFORE 1PM EST. It didnt work as well as they wanted it to and Glock sent upgrades to fix the problem. There's no wiggle room here when it comes to the frame in the Glock Gen 3 vs Gen 4 they are exclusive to their own version. Thanks for sharing your insights Ben! Buffalo Bore 230gr JHP +P-903fps, 3.0 Buy custom GLOCK accessories and more on the Team GLOCK Store. But you probably shouldnt put a kit in a carry gun. not for the Camp Perry matches. The Gen 4 slide still will not fit the Gen 3 frame. Wow, sounds like youve been in a lot of gun fights. The grip is a little different. A better option to than trying to interchange the slides between the Gen 4 and Gen 3 is to upgrade the either Gen with aftermarket Glock slides for improved performance, racking grip and look. You will feel the same 5.5-pound semi-double action trigger pull on both the Glock 19 Gen 3 and the Glock 19 Gen 4. That's a price difference that is also cost saving. Ive owned numerous G 9mms over the years and they are all gone. Apologies, southpaws. This is a different pistol with the magazine extension. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. The recoil spring was changed to a dual captive unit instead of a single captive spring. Ghost makes one of the best, but Apex makes one, and a couple others. Thanks for the info Ben. 35850 Views 29 Replies 23 Participants Last post by G20 Guy, Apr 20, 2014. On the Glock 19 Gen 4, one upgrade comes into play when you choose to go with a .40 caliber chambering. 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